What to say to a Bumble match who is a civil engineer and runs ultramarathons
How to reply to a Bumble match who's a civil engineer and ultrarunner: what to read in her profile, what a good reply does, and when to follow up.
Her profile gives you two concrete hooks, and both are things people talk about with real specificity. A civil engineer has a job where things get built, measured and occasionally fall down, and most of the people she meets have never thought about how a bridge gets approved. An ultramarathoner has spent hours alone with her own head, and she has a relationship with discomfort that most people find baffling. Either one can be a starting point. The mistake is treating them as trivia to comment on.
What a good reply does is show you read the profile closely enough to ask about the part she actually cares about, and then give her an easy thing to answer. You are not trying to impress her with what you know about roads or race distances. You are trying to get her talking about her own work or her own training in a way that is fun to read.
Keep the first message short and specific. One question, tied to one detail, is usually enough. Anything longer reads as a pitch.
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Why her profile reads as a conversation opener
A civil engineer who runs ultras has put two of her hours each week into work and training that she cares about and probably thinks about even when she is off duty. Her profile is written to attract someone who will ask about those things, not someone who will list them back. A line like 'works on water infrastructure' tells you she has a job where she is responsible for something visible and expensive. A line like 'did a 100 miler last October' tells you she has a specific, hard memory she is proud of and may enjoy telling. Pick whichever one you find more interesting, and ask about the story behind it rather than the fact itself.
The mistake most people make is treating the profile as a list of conversation topics and picking the most surprising one. Surprise is not the same as interest. If you ask about the 100 miler, she gets to tell the part she likes. If you ask about the water work, she may get stuck explaining what she does, which is a worse opening for her.
Asking about the hard part of her work
The fastest way to get a good reply is to ask about the detail that comes with a story. For the engineer, that is usually a project that went wrong, got redesigned, or took three years longer than planned. For the runner, it is the point in a race where things stopped being fun, or the thing she ate that she now regrets. Both give her a moment she can describe with some humour, which is what makes a reply feel easy to send.
Keep your question open enough that she can choose her own answer, but narrow enough that she knows what you mean. A question that could be answered in one word will get one word. A question that asks for a story will get a story, and a story is the thing you can respond to.
Keeping replies short and in the same daylight
If she answers, respond within the same part of the day, unless it is clearly late for one of you. Your reply should be shorter than hers, and it should give her something to follow, either a question about the thing she mentioned or a small honest reaction. One thing per message is enough. If you send a paragraph back, she will feel she has to match it.
If she doesn't answer after a good opener, wait about four or five days before sending anything else, and make the second message a light, different thought rather than a repeat of the first. A single follow-up is reasonable. If there is still nothing after that, stop, and do not send a third message explaining why she should reply.
Why these replies fail
“So you're a civil engineer and you run ultramarathons, that's really impressive! How do you have time for both?”
It lists her two traits, flatters her with 'impressive,' and asks a question that invites a brief, generic answer.
“A civil engineer who runs 100 milers? I'm going to need you to design my life.”
The joke rests on her being a perfect person, which puts pressure on her to deflect instead of talking about herself.
“Hey! Saw you're into trail running. Do you prefer hills or flat routes? Also are you a morning or evening runner?”
Two questions stacked together, both about logistics, turn the opener into a questionnaire with nothing to react to.
Common mistakes
- Quoting a fact from her profile back at her as if it were a question
- Asking how long her runs are or how many miles she does in a week, which turns into an interview
- Making jokes about bridges or potholes before she has said anything about her job
- Sending a long opener that lists everything you noticed about her profile
- Replying after several days with no acknowledgement of the gap
Questions people ask
- Is it okay to mention her job in the first message?
- Yes, as long as you ask about something she has likely thought about more than once. Asking what the hardest part of a project was tends to work better than saying the job sounds cool. It gives her an easy story to start with and shows you read her profile carefully without making her explain her career.
- What if I know nothing about ultrarunning?
- You don't need to. Ask a question a beginner could ask honestly, like what the longest race she has done felt like in the last few miles. Most runners enjoy describing that stretch, and your ignorance becomes a reason for her to explain rather than a problem.
- How long should I wait before following up if she replies briefly?
- If her reply is short but friendly, a response within a day is fine. Keep it as light as her message and ask one new thing. If the replies keep getting shorter, let the conversation ease off rather than pushing for more detail.
- Should I mention that we both like running in a first message?
- Only if you actually run and the detail adds something specific. Saying you both run is too general to give her a reason to reply. Name the particular trail or race type you know, and ask her about hers, which keeps the focus on her experience.
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