What are we? Talking it through after secret-location dates
How to bring up the what are we conversation when dates keep happening in secret locations, and what a good reply needs to do.
When dates keep happening somewhere neither of you talks about, like a private back room, a car, or a friend's place you only ever meet at, the vagueness is doing the work. You can get closer and closer without ever saying what it is. That's fine for a while, but at some point one person starts wanting a clearer picture and the other is hoping nobody asks.
The what are we talk is less about labels and more about whether you two agree on what this is. A good reply from either side should show you can be direct about the arrangement without making it sound like an ultimatum, and that you can hear a different answer than the one you were hoping for.
The secret-location part matters because it shapes what the other person can see. If they can't picture your life around them, they have less to go on. They may read the secrecy as hiding something, or as a sign you only want the private version of them.
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The meeting spot is doing the talking
Watch what the locations say. If every plan lands somewhere out of sight, the other person is probably keeping this separate from the rest of their life. That might be deliberate or just habit. Ask yourself whether they've ever suggested something public, or whether they go quiet when you bring up anything in daylight. Either pattern tells you more than any single message.
Also notice what they don't mention. People who are invested usually reference the future in small ways, like a restaurant they want to try or a weekend idea. People keeping things contained tend to talk only about the next time you'll see each other. Neither one is proof, but a clear pattern of only here and only now is something you can act on.
Answer before you get curious
When you ask what this is, the first thing to get right is saying what you actually want to know. Ask about exclusivity directly and say what you're hoping for, without wrapping it in a hint. Then let them answer before you start interpreting. The first answer is often defensive, and a more honest one tends to come a few minutes or a day later.
If they give you a noncommittal answer, don't fill the gap with your own version of what they meant. Ask one follow-up that narrows it, like whether they're seeing anyone else right now, or whether they want to keep meeting in these same places or be seen together. Then let the silence sit. Being able to hear a no without arguing with it is the real skill here.
The week of silence matters more than the text
After you've asked, the reply time is information. If they answer warmly within a day, the conversation is open. If they go quiet for several days and then send something cheerful about plans, they're probably avoiding the question, not forgetting it. Give them a day or two before you follow up, and don't send the same question again in different words.
If the follow-up also goes unanswered, or gets a reply that changes the subject, you have your answer about where they stand. At that point, say you need something clearer before you keep meeting, and mean it. Stopping is a valid outcome of this conversation, and it's better to get there in a week than in three months.
Why these replies fail
“Hey so I think we should figure out what this is. I'm not trying to pressure you, I just really like you and want to know if you feel the same way.”
It leads with pressure disclaimers and a feelings question, so the other person has to manage your emotions before they can answer the real question about exclusivity.
“We always meet at places nobody would ever see us at lol. What are we doing?”
The joke makes the real question easy to dodge, and asking what we're doing invites a shrug instead of a clear answer.
“Honestly I've been thinking about it a lot and I'm kind of hurt that you never introduce me to anyone. Can you explain why?”
It opens with the hurt and makes the other person defend their choices, which turns a question about the arrangement into a complaint about them.
Common mistakes
- Waiting until the feelings are obvious and then asking, which makes the other person feel cornered
- Asking for a label when what you actually need is to know whether they're seeing other people
- Framing the talk around how you feel and skipping the practical question of what the arrangement is
- Treating a vague answer as a yes instead of a sign the conversation needs to keep going
- Reopening the question every few days after a non-answer
Questions people ask
- Is it too early to ask what we are after a few secret dates?
- It depends on how many dates there have been and how exclusive things are. Once you've had several meetings and aren't seeing other people or thinking of it casually, it's reasonable to ask. Keep the question simple and focused on exclusivity, not labels, so the other person can answer without feeling the stakes are huge.
- What if they keep saying they're not sure?
- A repeated not sure usually means they want the arrangement to stay open and are avoiding a commitment. Ask one specific question, like whether they're seeing anyone else, and see if that gets a clearer answer. If it keeps getting vague, the not sure is the answer, and you can decide whether that works for you.
- Should I bring it up in person or over text?
- Text works better for a first direct question, because it gives both of you time to think before answering. If the conversation needs to continue, moving it to a call or a daytime meeting in public is a good next step, especially if the secret-location pattern has been a source of doubt.
- What if they tell me they're seeing other people?
- Then you know where things stand, and you can decide whether that fits what you want. You're allowed to say the arrangement doesn't work for you and end it, or to keep seeing them on those terms if you actually prefer that. Either choice is fine as long as you're making it with the real information in front of you.
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